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Originally published November 29, 2005 at 12:00 AM | Page modified November 29, 2005 at 12:32 PM

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Hawk Notes: "12th man" key to latest victory over Giants

Clearly they made a difference, and Mike Holmgren wanted to make sure the fans knew just how much it meant to the Seahawks. Holmgren, the Seahawks coach...

Seattle Times staff reporter

KIRKLAND — Clearly they made a difference, and Mike Holmgren wanted to make sure the fans knew just how much it meant to the Seahawks.

Holmgren, the Seahawks coach, opened his news conference Monday with a football in hand, announcing he will present it to the "12th man" for the fans' part in the 24-21 win over the New York Giants on Sunday.

The ball, marked with a "K" because it is used for kicking, is the one Josh Brown used to boot the game-winning field goal in overtime. Each week, the coaching staff presents game balls to three players (offense, defense and special teams) as a reward for the top performances following a victory.

Holmgren said the additional game ball being given to the 12th man will be displayed at the stadium.

Holmgren talked about the crowd noise Sunday at Qwest Field, comparing it to the boisterous levels of the Kingdome.

"It was never more evident than in the game [Sunday] with all the penalties that came directly because of crowd noise and the enthusiasm of our fans," Holmgren said.


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The Giants were called for 11 false-start penalties, unable to hear snap counts.

Holmgren and several players made mention of the fans in postgame comments Sunday.

"The Seattle football fans have probably gone through some stuff in their history," Holmgren said, "and now we want to give our fans a team they can be proud of, where they can be excited about it, talk about it and have hope."

A call about two calls

The NFL notified the Seahawks that officials made mistakes on both Giants touchdowns. Both were called touchdowns on the field and upheld on replay.

The first touchdown, a second-quarter pass to Jeremy Shockey, looked to be incomplete after Seahawks safety Marquand Manuel separated the ball from Shockey's hands in the end zone with a jarring hit. It was ruled Shockey maintained possession long enough for it to be a score.

"I don't think Jeremy had both feet on the ground when the ball came out," Holmgren said.

The second touchdown, a pass to Amani Toomer with two minutes left in regulation, was reviewed to determine if Toomer got both feet inbounds along the end line. Holmgren thought it was a great catch by Toomer and didn't seem to be at odds with the call.

Holmgren also said he called a timeout during overtime after a 10-yard completion to Shockey, which he fumbled forward. Officials ruled it a catch and fumble recovered by the Giants, but after the replay review it was overturned to an incomplete pass. That kept the Giants out of much better field-goal range.

Holmgren wasn't sure the replay officials would ask for a review. They are the only ones who can do so in overtime or the final two minutes of a half. Coaches cannot challenge a call in those time periods, so Holmgren bought more time with the timeout. It worked, as referee Larry Nemmers walked over to tell Holmgren the replay officials were buzzing him.

"I didn't like how that was going. I was waiting and waiting," Holmgren said. "That was a little bit scary there. That should have been done a little bit sooner."


• The players were given Monday off as a reward for the hard-fought win, and also have today off from practice as part of their regular weekly schedule. "It was like they won the lottery," Holmgren described the reaction when he told the players of the day off.

• Holmgren wished his friend and former assistant coach Steve Mariucci well following the news that Mariucci had been fired as Detroit Lions coach earlier Monday. Holmgren said he wanted to give Mariucci some time before calling him.

• DT Marcus Tubbs is expected back from a calf injury this week. Holmgren hopes to get WR Darrell Jackson (knee injury) on the field a little this week, with the hope that he can return for the San Francisco game on Dec. 11.

• CB Kelly Herndon sprained the MCL in his left knee Sunday and is expected to miss at least two or three weeks. Andre Dyson will start at left cornerback, with Jordan Babineaux and Jimmy Williams getting more playing time in extra defensive-back packages.

• Defensive coordinator Ray Rhodes was not in the coaches' booth last weekend and stayed home. Holmgren will decide later in the week what the plan is for Rhodes for the Monday night game in Philadelphia after conferring with team doctors.

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Streaking Seahawks
The Hawks are in the midst of a seven-game win streak, second best in franchise history. The top four and their final regular-season records:
No. Year Dates Record
8 1984 Nov. 14-Dec. 2 12-4
7 2005 Oct. 9-Nov. 27 ??
5 1986 Nov. 23-Dec. 20 10-6
5 1999 Oct. 24-Oct. 14 9-7

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